sorry, i do not see an end to the recession, i see more tax increases, i see gasoling back up to $4.00 a gallon which contributed to the recession, i see any alternative energy being much higher in cost than fossel fuel i see higher prices in retail, i see higher utlities, i see more unemployment, i see more government, and more homes being repossesed, and more stimules packages which fill the pockets of politicians, and i see a waste at this point of time in any new school taxes that tax homeowners, in fact i see the camel owner who put that last little straw on the camel that broke the camels back, it too was just a small increase to the total load

I don't like to sound like a negative person but I agree 100% with bdog. I believe his opinions are well grounded in reality.

the carnahan wind scam

carnahan plans to spend $600 million to furnish wind generated electrical power to holt and atchison counties. this would undoubtedly be funded by the u. s. government at taxpayer expense. i am not a c.p.a., but i can use census numbers and common sense to see this is nothing short of a boondoggle.

The population of the two counties is approximately 11,800 and there are approximately 5,000 households. thus the capital cost of the project is approximately $51,000 per capita or about $120,000 per household. yes, i know there are farms and other businesses that would dilute these figures, but the Rockport wind farm capital cost was $40,000 per meter customer using carnahan's own reporting on that project.

using an annual return on investment of a modest 6%, just the recovery of the capital cost would have to add at least $2,400 a year or $200 a month to the electric bill of the average meter customer. this is on top of the actual cost and delivery of the wind generated electricity which in every case has been higher than coal-generated electric power.

can somebody tell me where my conclusions on the folly of this project are wrong?

but ww, the catch word is, was, and will always be jobs. its like the hillshire farms advertisement with the catchy little tune, you say "jobs", i say "good", "jobs!= good! =vote jobs!"

i love the concept, and it sounds good.

the whole "shovel ready" mantra bothers me. most projects which fall under that category were in two groups. first, those which happened to be in the pipeline, and may be good or may be worthless. second ( and most troublesome) those which have already made the rounds and been rejected. the second group really concern me. what is the sense in dusting off anything and everything you have on the shelves just to make a submission for obama money? is this prudent ?

my second question regarding this project is about the "hundreds of jobs" that would be created. i know the turbines are huge and a delivery grid would also have to be built, but really, "hundreds of jobs?" i just don't believe it.

also, why would 30,000 acres be needed for just 150 turbines? that's 200 acres per turbine. compare that to the wind farms you see in the california desert and across texas where the density is certainly no more than 20 acres per turbine.

it just doesn't make economic sense to me, but maybe the financial viability doesn't have to compute in this day and age of econo-comedy.