Saturday, June 6, 2009
Brown-eyed man
I am appalled by the conduct the mayor of this city displayed at the council meeting Thursday evening. He shows so much unprofessionalism it's embarrassing to say he's our mayor.
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Just right
As a matter of fact, Rush Limbaugh is a good citizen because he does indeed listen to both sides. He gives credit to any idea he considers good for the country. He criticizes any idea he considers harmful, no matter what party is the originator.
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Lady problem
The lady judge soon to be installed on the Supreme Court is a dedicated anti-gun activist. This is your president setting up the court so they can take away your guns. Notice how our liberal news media don't tell about this so it will go through without a problem.
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169 backup
Well, here I am again, third time this week, sitting on Leonard Road backed up from 169 South Highway clear back to the railroad tracks. There's two semitrailers that want to go over to Love's Truck Stop, and here we are backed up because the state refuses to put in a turn lane at this fiasco intersection down here at 169. Put a box culvert and run the water under the highway there and put in a turn lane. This is absolutely ridiculous.
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Meowtown
How can somebody be heartless enough to take somebody's pet cat and dump it Downtown? Somebody has got a lost ad in the paper today where a neighbor trapped their cat on June 1 in Savannah, Mo., and dumped it Downtown. Whoever would dump an animal in a whole other town should be punished.
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Ham it up
Well, I see on the local television station there was a big grant given to the city to fix their emergency communication vehicle not only for the city but for the county. None of the ham operators have been communicated with, although federal statute requires that ham operators be involved in emergency communications by statute of law. It's about time the ham operators who stand ready to help were contacted and we could get to do something.
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Believe it
I wonder how many people who voted for change wanted the change we are getting today. The American people are going to be put in the poor house by this administration. It's going to come down to where the government is going to be so big that they are going to tax you even if you grow a little garden. I hope the people who voted for change, I sure hope this wasn't the change you wanted.
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gunner81 says...
The mayor hasn't changed. This is how he has always been. It is what endears him to the general public of St. Joe. That behavior "is" St. Joe. Maybe he thinks he is Harry Truman or something.
June 6, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
teacherlady says...
Several of these calls are appalling. I've said for a long time now that it seems to me that the Republican Party, a party that was once known for its inclusiveness and good ideas, is self-destructing. Instead of providing ideas, conservatives seem to be trying to spread more of the fear-and-hate politics that were overwhelmingly defeated last year and even now they seem to be relying on ineffective scare tactics, personal attacks, and just flat refusing to cooperate rather than trying to contribute anything. I've decided that since, clearly, I'm completely unable to change anybody's mind, today I'll join in.
Sotomayor is a racist, socialist, weird-food-eating, argumentative, bullying, empathetic, hot-tempered, WOMAN who was nominated by Obama as part of a huge plot to swoop in and take away everybody's deer rifles. Obama is clearly an un-American, Socialist, Fascist, secret Muslim who wasn't even really born in the United States! He wants to unhinge the very fabric of our great country by using a teleprompter too much, being too nice to other countries, trying to destroy the economy that collapsed in January, not September of last year as the liberal media reported, and letting his wife show too much arm.
Jesus loves everybody except gays; trade with Cuba is bad because it's a Communist country but trade with China is ok; if adolescents aren't taught about contraception, they won't have sex; global warming is junk science, but we should teach creationism; a president lying about an extramarital affair is a impeachable offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy. Furthermore, government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages, censoring the Internet, and utilizing illegal wiretaps. Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and we should all pray for his recovery.
And speaking of the sainted Rush Limbaugh, of course he's a model citizen who's only speaking out for today's only repressed minority-conservatives. He's made race-based attacks on four of the most admired and respected people of African descent in the past one hundred years (but as he put it "They're twelve percent of the population-who the hell cares?) He called for the assassin of Martin Luther King to be given a medal, and defended slavery. He told the world Joe the Plumber was more important in the 2008 election than Colin Powell. He's tried hard to keep Jews and Muslims, and women in their place. He proved that global warming can't exist because as everyone knows, there's more forest in the U.S. today than there was when Columbus landed. His brilliant rhetoric has made conservatives what they are today.
Wow! Satire is fun. Maybe I'll be conservative every day.
June 6, 2009 at 11:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
Leave off the last line and I think you got it right.
June 6, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
truthbetold says...
To the lady that wrote about your guns being taken away. Give me a break. The extreme right and the NRA want you to believe that every democrat and candidate want to take your guns away. Your guns were never taken away and I don't forsee them ever being taken away. Some of you people are way out there. You must be listening to Rush too much.
June 6, 2009 at 1:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Hesaidwhat says...
Im an old Republican from way back when white men were white men and black men were scared. Now that Rush Limbaugh,he's a guy we can get behind. Remember when you could tell the truth and not be called out on it?
June 6, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
apmastrangelo says...
just right - Are you sure it is Limbaugh that you are listening.
He has not made one objective comment in ages and view him as the worst of any hypocrit - An embarrassment to the true Republican.
Thank goodness people can still have the option of being an independent!
June 6, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Orliandor says...
LOL Good one, teacherlady.
June 6, 2009 at 2:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JLS says...
Teacherlady- I got a chuckle out of that. I think you just about hit every issue :-) I love it!
June 6, 2009 at 5:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
megafrog says...
Personally I don't like Obama because even a kid knows that if you spend money you don't have, it is bad. Bush was a fool that way too. Obama's bias against white people and anyone who happens to believe in Christ and the Constitution is just the frosting on the Nobama cake.
June 6, 2009 at 7:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
striped_tigerfan says...
teacherlady, in your eloquent satire, you forgot to mention abortion - you stated previously you are a Catholic and you strongly support this issue. How could you have neglected to mention it? - Do your homework and pray you don't get a failing grade.
June 6, 2009 at 11:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pops says...
Teacherlady,
While I appreciate the satire, I DO think you have painted with a mighty wide brush.
Most Republicans don't think Ms. Sotomayor is a racist. They're just not sure, considering her past bench decisions, that she's open-minded enough to sit on the Supreme Court.
Most Republicans don't believe Obama is clearly an un-American, Socialist, Fascist, secret Muslim who wasn't even really born in the United States! They ARE concerned he's spending us into the tank with money borrowed from God only knows where. Most Republicans genuinely DO hope he's successful in doing his job, because if he fails, America fails. Most Republicans couldn't care less about the rest of your diatribe regarding the President. Oh...and yes....most Republicans I know refer to him as the President.
Most Republicans believe Jesus loves everybody...period.
Most Republicans I know don't mind if we open trade with Cuba but trade with China is required since they basically own our country!
Most Republicans don't want adolescents taught about contraception in school. They'd prefer kids learn how to read and write there.
Many Republicans I know don't believe global warming is junk science...they just believe it's something that happens naturally, not affected by mankind.
Most Republicans think we should teach creationism since true learning is examining more than one theory.
Most Republicans don't believe President Bush lied about anything. Was he misled...perhaps, but he did his best, and our nation has been safe since 9/11. Oh...and President Clinton did lie...under oath. Most folks go to jail for that....
Most Republicans agree that government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which includes letting people speak their minds, even if it isn't politically correct, and allowing them to practice their religious beliefs, even if they're different from mine.
Most Republicans don't believe the internet has been censored and most of them believe that if Big Brother wants to listen to our phone calls, He'll be very bored.
Most Repbulicans know Rush is an entertainer and not an absolute authority...much like Joe Biden and Al Gore.
Perhaps you don't know many Republicans, or perhaps you just choose to stereotype them, based on a biased state of mind. Personally, I don't care....your satire was still funny. I do wonder, though, if you'd find the same humor if the tables were turned?
June 7, 2009 at 6:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
megafrog says...
I think that perhaps for liberals, the desire to take no personal responsibility and have the government control them, clouds their judgment. Excellent rebuttal Pops!
June 7, 2009 at 8:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JLS says...
pops- if you go back and read many of the "It's Your Call," teacherlady isn't too far off on her 'satire.' And that is what she is referring to in her post. You may not believe those things but many of those who call in or who post on here, do. Just go back and read past "It's Your Call" to verify some of what teacherlady has posted. That is what makes it so entertaining... to know that there are others who actually believe some of those points...
striped_tiger- I don't think teacherlady has EVER stated her position on abortion.
June 7, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pops says...
JLS,
I realize there are some who post those very things here, but as I mentioned, MOST Republicans I know aren't that way. What I'm desperately TRYING to do is make teacherlady understand that she's painting with a very wide brush. I recognize that if she and I were to sit down at a table together, we'd find a lot of common ground. I know that, because there are many things she says with which I agree. I think, if she'd stop and think a bit, that sometimes, we ALL tend to generalize and put people in an awfully large box. That's not healthy.
June 7, 2009 at 11:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JLS says...
pops- that is where you fail... teacherlady was being humorous. She was making light of some of the callers and post-ers. She wasn't referring to MOST of the Republicans that you know. You turned it around and are taking it that she feels ALL Republicans are like that.
The sad fact is a lot of the VOCAL Republicans are like that. If someone did nothing but read the comments and posts on SJNP, they would be pretty well led to believe that Republicans in general and most conservatives have those ideals.
According to many of the post-ers on here, you do realize that the United States is going to h*ll in a handbasket because a less than majority of koolaid drinkers voted a Koran toting, foreign-born, Muslim who wants to do nothing but give all our hard-earned money to those who don't pay taxes... This man who is considered a messiah by those too stupid to think for themselves doesn't have the best interests of our country at hand and only wants to let the US be taken over by Muslims.... Go back and read with an open mind-- you will see what I mean!
June 7, 2009 at 12:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
Teacher lady didn't have satire........it was just fact (s)
She got it right once.
June 7, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pops says...
JLS...that's the problem. Although you may not like the President, and may not agree with his policies, he is NOT what you said he is. He's not toting a Koran, he is NOT foreign-born, and he's not a Muslim. All three of those things are false, and you insist on perpetuating the myth. Although I didn't vote for him, and I disagree with almost everything he's doing, I refuse to continue to perpetuate falsehoods and lies.
While I understand teacherlady was writing in satire, satire, in and of itself, is a humorous, back-handed attempt to make a point. I was speaking to her underlying point...as well as to previous posts she's made in which she was "painting with broad strokes"
June 7, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
striped_tigerfan says...
JLS....you misconstrued my comment about teacherlady and her omission of abortion in her satire. I don't know if she is pro or anti but she certainly had a lot to say about the issue in her comments in May when she defended Obama's speech at Notre Dame. That's why I thought it odd that she didn't include it in her satire posting.
June 7, 2009 at 2:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JLS says...
Pops-- wait! I didn't say those things about President Obama... go back and read what I wrote. I said that according to many of the post-ers on this website...
I agree. He is our President. He deserves our respect. Just as President Bush deserved our respect when he was in office. I do not believe those things. Never have and never will.
June 7, 2009 at 2:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
teacherlady says...
pops, it may have come off that way, but I really wasn't trying to make fun of all Republicans. I was poking fun at some of the more ridiculous things I've read in "It's Your Call" and on these web discussions. JLS got it. And yes, I know I was overgeneralizing. It was a great way to blow off some steam; I had a great time writing it, and I think most of the people who read it enjoyed it. That is what I was going for, so for once I managed to accomplish something on here. In terms of turning the tables, I could write the "liberal" version of the same satire myself. A side effect of my news addiction is that I can (and from time to time do) play both from both side of the court.
striped_tigerfan, I have always flat refused to discuss abortion and I'm not going to start now. In May I supported Notre Dame's decision to allow Obama to speak at their commencement and cited facts to try to show that the sentiment of the protestors was not an accurate representation of the Catholic church or a majority of its members. I've also discussed the death of George Tiller. That's as close to the abortion issue as I plan to get because, as most of us can see, discussing abortion makes people batsh*t crazy and I don't want to get mixed up in it.
Ibc, thank you. Your support of even the craziest of the things I said yesterday made my underlying point more eloquently than I ever could have. You, sir, made my day.
June 7, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wildwest says...
Teacherlady, you should send your post to Newsweek, Time magazine, etc. I got a good kick out of it. :) It about hit on every major national story out there now. Nice to see a good sense of humor on the forum now and then, breaks up the serious and often heated debates on here. By the way, Rush rocks, and I listen to Rush for what it is, entertainment.
June 7, 2009 at 3:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pops says...
I understand, JLS, and I accept that. You're right...I see how I didn't read it in the way it was intended.
Teacherlady, I get the satire. I understand that, and CAN smile at the humor. However, I hope YOU understand that there are many, many more of us who more closely share MY Republican views...not the radical ones you were highlighting. I hope you understand that there are fewer and fewer far right radical folks out there, in the real world. They're much closer to a realistic middle. I'm also understanding that about the left. Unfortunately, there are way too many of the radicals in our government who are out of touch, or out of line. Not sure which....
Glad to find myself less on opposite ground with you. You're a formidable debator.
June 7, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
Teacherlady.....you made the statement that LaRaza was not a baised organization.......hummmmmm. Check out what they say....
"FOR OUR RACE, EVERYTHING. FOR OTHERS NOTHING."
Ms Sotomayor has been a long time member........doesn't sound like she subscribes to fair and balanced. She is indeed empathic (and thats a code word for...you know what)
June 7, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
teacherlady says...
Ibc, I heard a commentator on FOX News say that the statement you just wrote was La Raza's motto. However, unlike you, I checked it. It's not true.
La Raza is a nonprofit organization, the largest Latino civil rights and advocacy group in the United States. Essentially it's the Latino NAACP. Here's a link to La Raza's official website for anyone who's actually interested in getting some facts. Please check it out and get the facts from the source rather than just buying the hype.
http://www.nclr.org/
June 7, 2009 at 4:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
teacherlady says...
pops, I understand that the "beliefs" I stated aren't mainstream Republican beliefs. I hope the sorts of beliefs I was making fun of are the minority, and was trying to comment on the fact that I hear a lot of the worst of Republicanism and it worries me as much as any Republican.
Thank you very much for your compliment. I love a good debate and thanks to you and the other people who actually discuss issues rather than bringing up the kind of nonsense I did or launching personal attacks, I've enjoyed several since I joined the site. I've made mistakes (You hear that, WW?) and despite my best efforts I've been mean from time to time, but it's usually that sort of craziness that sets me off and I do try my best to fight fair and just enjoy a good discussion.
June 7, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
terrebatu says...
lbc's post are always good for a laugh. I do kind of feel bad for him though having to repeat the same tired conspiracy theories over and over.
There are some very effective meds available for your condition.
June 7, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
Its interesting how often someone is so quick to demean anyone on this blog........actually I examined the LaRaza site at some length. I did not find that particular line. I did not summarily dismiss the possibility that it was there until Sotomayor came on the scene and it was promptly noted and scraped. Nevertheless, my examination of the site confirmed the essence of my earlier conclusion.....
LaRaza is indeed almost entirely an "Advocacy Group". You can find all of their "Advoacy strategies" (their language/not mine) on the site
That means Ms Sotomayor as an appelate Judge has been a member of an advoacy group the entire time. I find that inappropriate. It's like the KKK. Simply inappropriate. If a white canidate had been a KKK member in college he would be extracated instantly.
Now a women/latino gets an instant pass for 20 plus years as the member of an advocacy group....double standard
So, terrebatu, have another good laugh.
I did in fact do my homework, I clearly sustained the foundation for my earlier assertion and conclusion.
And, I might inquire....I don't see where the conspiracy arises in any of this. But of course "conspiracy" is certainly a catchy term when you don't have any substance for your assertion.
I notice liberals move quickly to labels and inflamatory rhetoric when they don't have it together.
June 7, 2009 at 5:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
teacherlady says...
Yes, they do have advocacy strategies on their website. These include encouraging Hispanic Americans to become naturalized, to vote, to find work, and to learn English. Honestly!
Ibc, if you honestly can't see the difference between organizations like La Raza and the NAACP and the KKK I don't even know what to say to you. Again, I encourage everyone to check out the website and draw their own conclusions.
Other than terrabatu making fun of you, the only "inflamatory rhetoric" I found in all the posts since we started focusing our discussion on La Raza is the "motto" you threw up in great big all caps when you by your own statement knew it wasn't their motto and didn't appear anywhere on their website. Now instead of just being uninformed, you lied.
June 7, 2009 at 8:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
terrebatu says...
"Check out what they say....
"FOR OUR RACE, EVERYTHING. FOR OTHERS NOTHING."
"Actually I examined the LaRaza site at some length. I did not find that particular line."
"I did in fact do my homework"
Wow.
June 7, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
Teacherlady....stooping into the gutter....calling names. Not your style. Oh, well
You did make one absolutely correct statement....
"Civil righrs and advocacy group". Yep, that's exactly what they are And, that is richly reenforced on their website...they are an advoacy group for one segment of our population.
And that makes my point. We ask Congress to put their investments in "blind trusts" so they are not baised. I would opine that a member of the Supreme Court (or appelate courts for that matter) should be "lilly white". They should have no ties to any group that advocates for one group of our population , over another.
There should be absolutely no ties, no connections, no committments, absolutely NOTHING that even suggests a judge might have a prejudical opinion. Ms. Sotomahyor clearly does not have clean connections....
It's not important what the group is...the KKK advoaates for it's "group" and it advocates, what it advocates. That is unimportant....I certainly don't want David Duke on the Court....and I don't want Jesse Jackson....or a lot of other people who have demonstrated that their principle activity is "strategic advocacy" as clearly stated on the LaRaza web site.
Their purpose in life is to advance one group over another..and LaRaza does precisly that. It doesn't make abit of difference what they advocate.
June 7, 2009 at 11:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
terrebatu says...
lbc-I assume you oppose these Justices as well?
Scalia Addressed Advocacy Group Before Key Decision
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines...
Justice Thomas Reports Wealth of Gifts
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines...
June 8, 2009 at 2:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
terrebatu.........
"addressing" a group is hardly the same as being a dues paying member for 20 years.
If the circumstances were the same the answer would be "yes'
June 8, 2009 at 7:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10377586 says...
teacherlady,
Your post is AWESOME!!!!!! one of the funniest things I've read in a long time. What is unfortunate is some will feel your comments sincere, several that even post on this news web site.
June 8, 2009 at 8:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JLS says...
Any group or organization can be considered an advocacy group or advocacy organization. To join or belong to an organization is to advocate for it... whether it be political, religious or even the local golf club.
To look down on La Raza because they are considered an advocacy organization is ridiculous and ignorant.
June 8, 2009 at 9:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pops says...
However, JLS...IF La Raza is an advocacy group or organization that highlights and favors one ethnic group over another, I'd have a problem with that. I'm not talking about their focus, because it's very possible, and probable, they focus on hispanics, and rightly so. What I've seen and read about them so far makes me think they're doing a good job trying to help people with legal citizenship, learning English, etc, which are good things. If they're racist in their message, though, that would be different.
June 8, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
LaRaza sponsored a "rally" in LA that had nothing to do with what I would consider "ok" stuff,, such as learning english...seeking legal citizenship and activities Teacherlady would have you believe they advocate.
They were flat out for instant and unrestricted amnesty. They wanted full benefits....NOW....social security. medicare, education........and they wanted it for another 30 million...all their relatives.
And, the American flag was flying upside down..BENEATH the Mexican flag.
LaRaza paid for all the organizers...all the flags & banners and entertainment.
That's their strategic advocacy.
It's certainly not clear to me that this is in the best interest of the United States I grew up in and would prefer to have for my grandchildren.
I'm not looking down on them......I simply disagree with them and I see no reason to advance their platform. I'll bet they would have a relatively similiar (opposite) view of my thoughts. And, thats fair.
But I don't want one of their shinning stars on the Supreme Court where we expect justice to be "blind".
June 8, 2009 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JLS says...
Pops- are you so intent on finding fault with my posts that you are not reading them? Go back and read my post:
I stated, "To look down on La Raza because they are considered an advocacy organization is ridiculous and ignorant. " I didn't utter one word about them being racist or favoring one ethnic group over another. I simply stated to look down on them because they are an advocacy organization is ridiculous and ignorant. I stand by my comment.
June 8, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
teacherlady says...
First of all, could you please link to your information? I checked and couldn't find any of the information about this rally you just mentioned beyond that it happened or that La Raza sponsored it. I don't see anything about the American flag being beneath the American flag at that rally or anything about full amnesty now at all. I did find a picture of the flags as you described them on Michelle Maklin's website, but it was from a student rally in Dallas in 2006 that was not associated with La Raza.
http://michellemalkin.com/2006/03/29/...
In fact the pictures I found of the LA rally you described had the American flag very prominent--all over the place, actually. Here's a link:
http://www.nclr.org/section/immigrati...
Second, and, again, you're missing the point I was trying to make. Being concerned with her being a member of La Raza is one thing and may be considered a valid argument. I don't feel it's a cause for concern, but I can see how some might. However, misrepresenting the organization to make your point only weakens your argument. Comparing this organization to the KKK is another ridiculous scare tactic that doesn't stand up in the light of any kind of scrutiny. In fact, I'm concerned that you don't seem to understand the differences between organizations like La Raza and the NAACP and the KKK.
Third, and I've brought this up before, and I suppose this won't be the last time, Ibc, you can be a member of a group without being part of everything the group does. I could be (I'm not, but I could be) a member of the ACLU, for example, but that wouldn't necessarily mean I believe everything they say or participate in everything they do. Unless Sotomayor has been at one of these rallies, I don't get the point.
And, finally, I didn't call you anything. I stated a fact. After I called you out on the fake La Raza motto you posted, you claimed that you knew all along that the "motto" is really not on their website. If you posted that "motto," when you knew it was false information, you lied.
June 8, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pops says...
JLS,
I wasn't trying to find any fault with your post....I was merely attempting to expand on it. Sorry if you got the idea that I was criticizing what you wrote...
June 8, 2009 at 11:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
Teacherlady.....first of all I want to observe that my interest in all of this does not reach the level of writing a term paper. I do not plan to do extensive research and I hope I am usually right and I have no intention of saying something I know is wrong. As you may have noticed I have recanted perhaps a couple times. If I'm wrong I'm happy to correct it.
As I recall, Bill O'Reilly had the President of LaRaza on and in that "debate" he flashed some of those not so wonderful pictures and asked her to explain. She waffled.
Her specific remarks in that exchange convinced me the group was veeeery much an extreme group. Those rallys are about as extreme as the NAACP & KKK, so I'm having a hard time choking that down.
I think my consideration is at the higher level....they are died in the wool advocates and have no margin for the position of others.
In the next level their tactics may differ. KKK 80 years ago was violent. I'm not sure I've heard of anything in the past 50+ years. NAACP is perhaps more extreme and they have been beaten up in the past 20 years and stuck with poor leadership so their tactics are less exposed.
Interesting you use ACLU as an example...I see them as a clearly anti-American organization....I would not evaluate them in a compartmentalized manner. Their fundamental purpose is to scuttle the fundamental American capitalistic system. It's what they stand for at the highest level that is critical.
At some point you can't disavow a fundamental goal and subscribe to only small bits and pieces of things out on the edge. (I'm not big on beheading..but)
If we are going to save America we are going to have to be more clear in our beliefs and convictions. We are going to have to be less "understanding" of bad things some people are doing. We can't excuse "beheading" just because all Islamic facists don't do it. What those people are doing to themselves is more horrible than what they try to do to us. Why don't we hear about that...check out Pakistan.
I went to one of those rallys in Phoenix....organized by LaRaza and staffed (in part) by the organization Obama funneled 8 billion bucks to....Acorn. It was flat out anti-American. The Nazis couldn't do it any better They have no interest in our democracy...they want our welfare, our social security, our schools and they are flat disgusted that they have to speak english (just like I am when I have to punch one)
1/3 of Sheriff Joe Apairo's prison is "Illegals" and SW Phoenix is a war zone. I will not go in that areaa after dark. Several folks are killed every single night and some of it is recreational driveby shooting. (You know...fun stuff) We have not seen even one-tenth of one percent of this "stuff" in St J. Just a little violence and a couple killings.
June 8, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Wright_Winger says...
Sheriff Joe is the hero of law-abiding citizens of Maricopa County, but is presently being "investigated" by the U.S. Justice Dept. and ACLU for "civil rights violations." The pinko mayor of Phoenix is supporting the vendetta being perpetrated against Sheriff Joe even though the English-speaking population is strongly in favor of the sheriff's brand of law enforcement.
June 8, 2009 at 12:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shimona87 says...
Mr. Hesaidwhat, you're just a dying old fart clenching to the romantic notion of your nostalgic past. Get with the times, geezer, because they're changing with or with out you.
June 8, 2009 at 12:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jrwilkinson1 says...
Hold on there, Shimona. I'm not about to agree with Hesaidwhat's comments, but I would not combat racism with ageism.
June 8, 2009 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pops says...
Here's an idea.....round up the ACLU leadership and send THEM to Gitmo....
June 8, 2009 at 1:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lbc says...
who is hesaidwhat's..../
who's collecting the pot to send aclu to Gitmo
June 8, 2009 at 5:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )