Im sure he feels bad, feels bad he got caught. My house was hit two years ago and I sure would like a shot at those punks.

Thank you Judge Kellogg.

And you think that would made things all better don't you, to take a shot at the "PUNKS"? Their crimes weren't of the violent nature therefore that would make it to where you are a violent person! Ummmm? They were stupid but not violent, they did not beat or harm anyone physically, mentally, yes but not physically! Maybe you need some fixin yourself!

Autysmom,
Maybe you'd feel differently if it were YOUR home that was violated....if YOUR things were taken....your property damaged. Maybe if YOU had to pay that $500 deductible required to fix the broken windows and damaged door. Maybe if YOU had to spend every evening trying to reassure your children that they are safe...even when you're not sure of that yourself. Maybe if YOU had the things you've worked so hard to buy taken from you in seconds...

I was raised that everyone makes choices in life. Sometimes, those choices are bad ones, and will result in penalties. When I was a child, I paid penalties for disobeying my parents, for breaking the rules in our home, or for other things. The penalties ranged from a spanking down to grounding or sitting in the corner. I discovered, very early, that penalties typically fit the crime, and became more severe with repeated bad behavior. I also found out that penalties were what modified my bad behavior, and made me make better choices in the future. Punishment is a part of breaking the rules. As you said before....only time will tell if that punishment will be enough to modify the behavior of these guys. If it does, WONDERFUL! However, I have a feeling that had they not been caught, their bad behavior would have continued. I hope, for your sake, this is the end of it.

I'm glad these scum-bag losers got what they deserved! Things could have turned out a lot worse for them! You break into the wrong(or I should say right) house in town(aka mine), and you WILL be leaving in a bag! I'm glad to see that justice was served for once. And Autysmom, you say that they are stupid not violent, I agree that they are stupid beyond belief, but what do you think they would have done if someone had been home during their breaking in? Simply turn and run? It was a crime that could have turned violent very quickly. Glad to see these "good boys" got what they deserved! Hopefully they can rehabilitate themselves through long discussions with their bunk mates!!!

Yeah I do believe they would have turned and ran.. none of them carried weapons on them actually. I cant speak for all the boys but I can speak for some.. They were not violent people and they would never do anything to physically hurt anyone... Sorry but in any of these stories does it say they carried a weapon on them?? NOOO. A couple of these boys I know for sure know what they did wrong and would not do it again...Do they really deserve prison time for this crime...Hell NOOO! Isnt there like 2 other burglury chains that they are trying to catch, or thats what I heard... So throwing these boys in prison, is teaching other robbers what?? Nothing. Cause there are people out there right now doing the exact same thing after hearing about this incident!! People get involved with the wrong kind of people.. come on people that are talking crap on these guys... you have either been involved with people you know you shouldnt have or your kids will sooner or later..

Qtbabidoll07 I can't help but notice that you seem to know for a fact that [quote] "none of them carried weapons on them actually." How do you know that? Were you there with them? If so shouldn't you be a defendant in court right along with them as well then?

Maybe if the punishments for those who are convicted of a crime in this country were more harsh them maybe there would be less repeat crimes. Let our jails and prisons be an unpleasant place to be so ex-cons will do their best to stay out. I believe our founding fathers had a completely different opinion on what is cruel and unusual punishment.

I may not of been there with the boys when they burglarized Central (that is the only one my son was charged with), but i do know that these boys are not violent! I really hope for all their sake that once their time is served that EVERYONE of them are able to come home and have their families support them and try to make a mends with what they have done!
***Qtbabidoll07, keep up with the support because if the ones we care for don't have us, society sure isn't gong to give them a chance! And no i don't know which boy is your brother, I only know that its not the brotherS!

i was one of them who broke into a house and i can say for a fact that we never carried weapons or thought about that never even thought about physicaly harming anyone but i guess all of you are mind readers and know everything. im sorry for what i did and i can say the same for most of the boys involved we will do are time and get on with are lives

This just in: People don't like the idea of other people breaking into their homes and taking things that they WORKED hard for. Weapons or not if they are unlucky enough to get into a house that has an armed resident they could be shot and the home owner would be well within their rights to do so.How is someone to know if the person breaking in is looking for a stereo or tv or are they a rapist, kidnapper, or murderer? At my house I will do what is necessary to protect my family.

Amen to that! Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't give a damn if they're armed, they're getting shot if they're in my house, and I'm well within my LEGAL rights! PERIOD! And for "Qtbabidoll07", you don't think they deserved prison time? No kiddin? Maybe you're just as dumb as them! Who knows, maybe you were with them when some of this occured? And you speak of the police trying to catch 2 other chains, what makes them different from these boys? They should all be locked up for a good long time. Then it WOULD teach them a lesson. Steal other peoples things, go to jail, get some prison lovin. Sounds like it'd be a good lesson!

MC1987, you should go to prison too!!! And from your grammar and awesome capitalization in your paragraph, you should spend your time in the slammer brushing up on your English!

I just noticed the humorous title to this article!! The "alleged" leaders were sentenced!! ALLEGED!! There's no "ALLEGED" about it!! They were charged, convicted and now SENTENCED for a crime they committed!! Look, News-Press writers....the word "alleged" does not apply here!! Perhaps you guys need a dictionary??

Boy isn't it funny how the mom or buddy wants no prison time.Maybe she should have her things taken away from her for raising such a piece of trash.We all have known some "bad people"and most of us have had the brains to stay away and not follow their lead.They made their choice, they have to pay for it.And for the ones that say that those idiots got "lucky and picked on the houses that were undefended" i couldnt agree with you more. Just shooting them and calling the law wouldnt happen here. The families wouldnt even know what happened to them if they came here cause they'd be coyote bait way out in country- alive tied to tree.When you break into another mans castle then anything goes.If they truly are sorry then good. And if i was you mom I'd be trying to come up with the money to pay off the damage that your son did.Oh let me guess you're on welfare and cant work.Quit whinin about your son- you raised him- and did a horrible job.And as for the friend maybe you should try to repay those you stole from.

Autysmom is the perfect example of an idiot parent making excuses for their kid instead of kicking his a$$ like he needs.

Good job “mom”.

Not sure WHY my remark was removed by NP staff....guess the NP can't handle the truth....

Bottom line, thieves and burglers....if you break into the wrong house in St. Joe, prison may be the very LEAST of your worries....

bryan3506, Before u start calling people idiots , do me a favor and look in the mirror . Now u are looking at a complete idiot and moron .All we hear out of you is "
I wish they would come to my house . I,d shoot them ! You watch to many Clint Eastwood movies !When morons with guns make bad decisions ,it makes it bad on all gun owners .Sounds like to me you've had a few bunkmates because u sure know alot about it.SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE HAD A FEW RUN INS WITH THE LAW . Oh I forgot you're probably one of the so many perfect people that have been on this site. I see one of my comments was removed . Truth hurts don,t it morons!

Hey, SMOKEY2,
I'd invite you to go back and look at your OWN posts. You said the EXACT SAME THING as bryan3506. Seems to me you're ignorance is even amazing to YOU!! Why is it you can say such things, but you insist on castigating others who have the same sentiment?
I'd say your own son is a moron, because HE made a bad decision, and broke into houses, schools, business, etc. Therefore, HE is paying a penalty for HIS bad decision and HE will have to live with the results for the rest of HIS life.
How does ANY of that make the rest of US morons??
Face it, pal, your son is getting exactly what he deserves. If anything, they were too lenient on him.....

What he said^^^

And for the record, I have had no run ins with the law besides speeding tickets. Know why? Because I work for a living and don't feel the need to steal other people's hard earned belongings. And as far as a gun owner making a bad decision by shooting someone in the home, how is that a bad decision? Am I supposed to welcome them in? Maybe make them some breakfast? Or ask them politely to please leave so as not to offend them?

dalearch - autysmom is not an idiot! I know her personally. She loves her son. Remember when you point your finger at someone, there are 3 pointing back at you!

NO ONE is saying autysmom doesn't love her son....or at least they SHOULDN'T. What many of us are saying that rather than her decrying her son's punishment, she should be thankful he is alive and can learn from his mistake. He didn't get shot in the commission of his crime, or severely beaten. That's VERY EASILY what could happen in the future. Most, if not all, the posters in these forums wish autysmom and her son the very best. I think ALL of us, with heartfelt sincerity, hope he's learned his lesson. Only time will tell....

forgive the sinner not the sin. if you commit a crime in my house i can forgive you but you still must pay for your crimes. pepole are just tired of seeing crimminals getting leinent times. hasn't happened in st.joe yet to my knowledge,but mark my words it will happen sooner or later. someone will be shot breaking in a home or business.

its not as easy as some folks think to take another life. i came from a god fearing family and the first time i had to use my weapon in nam made me sick because of my up bringing. i don't regret it,just makes you wonder about the other guy. we all have mothers. he was just kid like me 18 and probably just as scared sh--less as me. so don't take life lightly. when you shoot someone theres always two victims,but on the other side if you threaten my family i would have no qualms to do what i takes to protect them.

The bottem line on these Burlaries and home invasions is the fact that; even though nobody on both sides of the crimes were injured or killed it can and does happen! you cant tell me that when a owner of a residence accidentilly walks in on the crime while it is taking place isnt in danger,,as most of these criminals will do almost anything not to get caught when facing long prison terms they may not actually want to kill someone , but just shoving somebody off their feet can cause a fatality if the circumstances are right.... hitting their head,heart attacks and so forth, espcially when the perpetraitors possibaly already have a criminal record.... but on the other hand the property owner cant use deadly force either unless his life or familys life is in imminent danger....if the criminal is attempting to flee and you shoot him that is against the law, if you turn loose a pack of mean dogs on a thief ,that is against the law ,,booby trapping your home to prevent future intrusions is also against the law..... basically what im trying to say ,is that criminals have rights too , weather people want to believe they should or not... its a double edged sword so be carefull before you act!!!!

dges,
You should read up on the Missouri Castle Doctrine and you'll find out that you are incorrect.I have copied the site below for you. Even if someone is trying to escape the commission of the crime, if they are on your property, you are still within your rights to shoot them. There was a case in Texas about this not too long ago where a man killed two men breaking into his neighbor's house by shooting them in the back while they were fleeing. The neighbor entrusted his home to his neighbor, and therefore the property was technically his to defend. This IS the same case in Missouri. And you state that "the property owner can't use deadly force unless his life or family's life is in imminent danger". Well if someone is entering my home, I'm not asking why, so I will assume that I am in imminent danger since I will not stick around to see the burglar's/murderer's intentions.

Here is the site for you.

http://www.learntocarry.com/docs/CastleDoctrine.html

I guess you could call me an "IDIOT", because the more I go back and read everyones comments over again, I realize that we will never agree on anything. I have saved every comment made regarding the burglarys and I believe that they will make a difference on what he does with his life when he is out! There are some out there that are wanting him to Fail and for that it will make him a stronger peron to prove everyone wrong!

Autysmom,
Nobody is WANTING for your son to fail. Nobody MADE him do what he did. You're not "proving everyone wrong", since "everyone" doesn't want your son to "fail". And I think most people on here would sincerely tell you that they do hope that he comes back reformed, so I think you should stop with the whole "us vs. them" mentality. You need to realize the world isn't out to get you or your son, but rather your son was punished for a CRIME that HE committed. Nobody made him do it, so the "us vs. them" doesn't fly here.

bryan 3506 after reading the M.c.d I do agree with you about how it reads concerning entering a dwelling and imminent danger ...but there also appears to be a fine line drawn between the use of force when the felons are detained by the owner of the dwelling during the crime,, which i assume would most likely be brought to a conclusion by a jury or judge if the doctrine was to ever come into play !!
in other words the owner better be able to prove his life was in danger!! is the way I take it still after reading it ,, it seems to have +s and -s for each side of the offense which is not clearly defined... call me stupid ,blind or what you want, but thats the way I read it ,, although your point was well taken!!!

Hey ole pops ,guess that makes you the biggest MORON than my son ,he admits he did a very stupid thing , but you, you admit you've done things and that you're not perfect . You're big on judging people, but reading your comments I now have a new name for you , a big pothetic moron . I can think of alot more choicer words for you but we won't go there . Practice what you preach ! I've already judged you since I guess in your eyes and the many other morons on this TOPIC , don't believe in second chances. You're POTHETIC ! Oh , I almost forgot to tell you ,I went to LOWES and bought me a pallet of 2x4,s ,I feel real safe now . YOU ALL NEED TO PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH !

Funny, SMOKEY2, how you just can't see that your son is paying a penalty for what HE committed. None of us forced him to commit the crime. He made that choice himself, and he has to live with the penalties that result from his actions. I just don't understand where your anger toward me comes from. I've not said ONE SINGLE THING you haven't already said yourself.
Additionally, as for my not being perfect....I never said otherwise. I don't get your "logic" at castigating me for admitting I've made mistakes in my life, while at the same time saying your son admits to making a stupid mistake. What on EARTH is the difference?
I will say this, too, that it would appear you have many anger issues. If it helps you to project that anger onto me, so be it. Personally, I don't care. I still maintain that rather than try and blame everyone and everything around you for this situation, put the blame squarely on the shoulders of the sole responsible party....your son.
I'd invite you to try and explain the anger and irritation you seem to have toward me. Please show me where I've "judged" your son. While you're at it, please tell me what "preaching" I've done that I need to observe myself....

Have a wonderful Monday!!!

ole pops, Reading all these comments has made me realize how wonderful our world really is . We the people do not believe in second chances ,we should judge people for all the bad they do , not the good they have done . I now know how to defend myself incase I am ever involved in a home invasion thanks to all the great people that made these great comments . First of all , I'll hit them with a 2x4, shoot them between the eyes, and take them out to the timber ,tie them to a tree and let all the little critters dispose of the remains , even though this person had never been in trouble before , it just makes common sense , doesn't it ? I personally have different thoughts about how I would handle the situation .If I could handle it without anybody losing their life ,that's how I would handle it , if not then I'll deal with it if it ever happens . You have a good life , I forgot you don't have one .

Smokey2,
Your level of maturity is certainly astounding to say the least. You play the blame game as much as humanly possible, and make a complete fool of yourself. It's truely refreshing to know that we have people such as yourself and your son that are of such a high caliber in this city. I will say this. I realize that there are bad apples in every family and with even the best parenting there will continue to be bad apples, BUT if your son's intelligence is in any way reflected by your own, then I certainly see why he has ended up the way he is. And for your comment on how we judge people for the bad they've done instead of the good; I don't care if you're the world's greatest humanitarian, if you steal or kill, you are nothing more than a petty thief or murderer. Am I wrong by saying this? I'm trying to get your logic of thinking here, but from the phrasing of your sentence(as poor as your grammar is), it pretty much reads that if you do more good than bad, then you're A-OK. Right? I'd have to strongly disagree. Instead of spending your time making a fool of yourself trying to degrade Pops, why don't you figure out a way to help reform and help your son? I think he needs you more than we do, so we promise not to complain when you heed this advice and choose to spend your time wisely instead of whining and blaming others on this forum.

+bryan3506 , like I said morons will always be morons .
It's not hard to figure out where stand . Let me know when we're on the topic of grammar , since you're so so perfect. Speaking of idots and morons, your name always comes to mind . GET A LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh ,where u stand .Excuse my grammar.MORON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your statements further prove my point. And like I said, if you're kid is anything like you, well no wonder things turned out the way they did. He had a complete imbecile for a father. You're making yourself look stupid...really...

Go look in the mirror , now you,re looking at a pothetic moron . Lets hope and prey you don't have any offspring . The world is full of enough morons and idiots like you !

correct spelling: pathetic
prey=animal hunted or caught for food
pray=a petition made to god or another object of worship

Sorry, I just can not stand to read these posts with spelling and grammatical errors, especially when they are made over and over again.

In general, I only read the discussions for amusement because it is ridiculous that people sit around and argue over the computer for sport.

I really have nothing to comment on this story, I was just dying over the errors! Oh well if this post gets removed, at least I feel better for the moment! I'm expecting a snide remark in retaliation, please just use spell check before you submit it!

Smokey2 thunks yew fer de currecshunz! I've been telling him that for awhile. He needed all the help he could get!! At least now I will MAYBE be able to interpret his ingenious remarks.

Everybody is an expert speller and all so perfect. One thing I do thunk is that u two moronz are frum tha same pod. Probably siamese twins, attached at the lips. byran3506 grew abeard to cover the stretch marks on his lips from being pulled apart . As to the other moron , if you don't like reading the comments ,join your other band of idiots and take a hike . Knoe wat eye mene ,dah dah dah da h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h h

Just a though If these boys were caught and were sentenced then they must do their time.After they do their time they will be back in the community at which time they must follow the laws like everybody else does.I know if I was asleep in my home and was awaken by someone in my home that did not belong they probably would not make it out.This is called me being a father and a husband and making sure my family is not in harms way and protected.I would rather someone ask me for something then steal from me.I have no idea what these boys were thinking but they will have to serve their time for their crimes and one could only hope they have learned their lesson.They will have a second chance and I truely do hope they take advantage of it.But the name calling is doing nobody including your children that are serving thier time any good.

Siamese twins attached at the lips...that did make me lol (ya know, laugh out loud)...thanks for the humor smokey!

Oh, p.s...as far as commenting on the actual story, in my opinion, judgement belongs to the Lord. I do not disagree that people have to abide by laws and serve their punishment. However, I am not a judge, jury or lawmaker so I can only hope justice was carried out by those who are in that position. It seems the accused got a fair sentence for the crime.

Like I said earlier, I normally just read these posts for laughs, however the grammatical and spelling errors were too great for me to overlook. Judges, juries and lawmakers and important for society to succeed...so are english teachers!

les80, Don't you mean judges,juries and lawmakers are important for society to succeed , good grammar dude. Practice what you preach !

Smokey, being the ignorant illiterate person that you are, I find it amusing that you of all people are criticizing people on correct grammar. That's like your son telling someone not to steal.

byran3506,All your ignorant comments you have replied with go in one ear and out the other . YOU JUST HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SOURCE IT CAME FROM !A know it all nobody .Knows absolutely nothing but knows it all. What a moron! Hope if you have any children "Let's hope not " they don't take after you . We don't need any moronites like you running around .

I believe they go in one ear and out the other because you have absolutely nothing in between. And I'm a moron? Um, am I the one who raised a thief? I think not. Shut up and go help your kid, because at the moment, you're being a piss poor dad when you're spending all of your worthless time on here instead of with your son.

bryan3506 , Do me a favor and kiss my A$$ !